Sins: Diplomacy Pre-Orders Begin

By Yarlen Posted September 15, 2009 14:25:30External Link

Ironclad Games and Stardock Entertainment are pleased to announce pre-orders for the upcoming Sins of a Solar Empire micro-expansion, Diplomacy. After 25 years of war, some elements of the TEC, Vasari and Advent have grown weary of conflict and desperately seek a respite. The decision is made to attempt peaceful negotiations to end the wars, but others view this new effort at diplomacy as the perfect means to destroy their enemies from within.

Sins of a Solar Empire: Diplomacy will add a new Diplomacy tech tree, new envoy cruisers, the ability to issue missions to other players, trade pacts, an entirely new relationship system, deadlier pirates and more.

Pre-orders for Sins of a Solar Empire: Diplomacy are available now for $9.95. This micro-expansion will require the full versions of Sins of a Solar Empire and Sins of a Solar Empire: Entrenchment to play. To pre-order, just head over to the Store.

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Wonderful! I'm preordering right now. Can't wait to play! ^_^

Preordered....

I've been waiting for this!

Wow Finally!

Haveing bought the game from germany on the day it came out and loveing entrenchment i grew more and more worried as week after week no news where to be found of whats to come. espacially some stupid german site which reported that sind was apparently available free somewhere (turned out to be an error and i was quite pissed at those guys i usually like their site) . well fantastic anyhow going to preorder at once if i am allowed to from germany and will happily await reports of all the new toys we get

Friday is payday!! Will be ordering then, wish i could do it now, haha, but well, ... have to wait. Glad its here, soon hopefully the beta will be available and then onward and upward!! Really as one of the posters said: with Defense (Entrenchment) and Diplomacy, there HAS to be a last chapter to wrap it all up!

Am hoping and crossing my fingers,

See ya friday! Keep Modding!!

-Teal

Mooster

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Yay

wtf, we can't preorder with paypal?

Quoting Thrawn2787, reply 9
No caps for pirates, as that doesn't fit in with the universe. They'll be getting an overhaul, though....just you wait and see. *evil grin*

Sweet. Now pirates won't just be "free xp"

I'd like to see a VO too (instead of text, it'd be funny but probably isn't happening. The only thing funnier than reading "Avast ye space rats!" would be hearing it)
I think you are intrepeting wrong. I think what it means by no cap mean the supply cap for pirates

No, he's interpreting correctly. There won't be capital ships for pirates

So, Annatar, since you work "behind the scenes" with Sins (some of us read the "Special Thanx To" section of the Sins manual) What is the one, game-busting thing you think this expansion will offer? (Like Entrenchment and it's Starbases)

Thx.

Koda0 (^)

Yarlen,

Please tell us there will be something after Diplomacy, please. I dont care what it costs, if its full-expansions or sequels or add-ons. Just tell me, something beyond what we have is on the horizon out there somewhere. You dont even have to tell me "what". Just tell me its there. Okie?

-Teal

Pre-ordered. I can't wait for the beta!

Annatar11

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Quoting Mooster, reply 21Yay

wtf, we can't preorder with paypal?

Quoting Thrawn2787, reply 9
No caps for pirates, as that doesn't fit in with the universe. They'll be getting an overhaul, though....just you wait and see. *evil grin*

Sweet. Now pirates won't just be "free xp"

I'd like to see a VO too (instead of text, it'd be funny but probably isn't happening. The only thing funnier than reading "Avast ye space rats!" would be hearing it)
I think you are intrepeting wrong. I think what it means by no cap mean the supply cap for pirates
No, he's interpreting correctly. There won't be capital ships for pirates

there aren't any now...

and why can't we preorder with paypal?

I saw a screw you american express does that mean you ran ur 25 dollar gift card through 2 times waited a week did it again (another denial and you hate cards more than when you started out like me!!!!!!

I support the screw you american express movement!

next question can I have diplomacy w/ starbases? please say yes.... now the fun question what if a new player doesnt buy entrenchment where do they fit in on ironclad?

pre-ordered. and curious like hell about the features of the new diplomatic research tree. (keeping my finges crossed that some evil things like espionage and sabotage will be available)

I don't understand(((is it final expansion?!...what about third exp?

there aren't any now...

Right. Which means the pirate buff won't come from the pirates getting their own capital ships

next question can I have diplomacy w/ starbases? please say yes.... now the fun question what if a new player doesnt buy entrenchment where do they fit in on ironclad?

Diplomacy requires both entrenchment and sins (it's on the impulse page)

Preordered...

Of course!

Yes, it's final expansion and next step will be Sins 2!

Officially confirmed by me just now

Ironclad, I think, thought the expansions were taking longer than they had thought and decided to scrap the third expansion. They are working on their next game though

EDIT: From the impulse store page (to help clarify my previous post)

Broadband Connection for Internet Multiplayer
Sins of a Solar Empire and Sins of a Solar Empire: Entrenchment (Full Version)
Impulse client software for download / install / updates

Pre-Ordered!

Shame about the third micro expansion though - was kinda hoping to seeing a forth race and a story, but I guess this will be more than worth the wait.

I wonder why IC decided to axe the third one anyway?

If you guys haven't checked out the General forum, the issue of further products has been addressed by devs and pubs alike - yes, more is to come. The reason the third was cancelled was because they wound up wanting to add so much more stuff that it really didn't fit the "micro" expansion mold. Oh, and none of us mere mortals/players know when that will be released, what the new stuff will be, nor whether it's going to be a full expansion or perhaps a sequel.

In the meantime, we have what looks like a fantastic add-on coming around the bend to enjoy the living daylights out of, something I fully intend to do!

koda0

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Officially, I don't know anything you guys don't Anything else I can't talk about.

However, the focus of this expansion isn't really on flipping combat upside down like Starbases did. The focus is on re-doing the one thing that was really lacking in the vanilla game and integrating it better. You shouldn't expect a huge "holy crap that looks awesome" thing like the Starbases were, you should expect more full and complete gameplay with a much more robust diplomacy system and pirates that are relevant for more than the first two attacks.

Like Blair said at PAX: "Diplomacy is more of a code update, not assets".

I have no doubt that it'd be well worth the price tag (check Frogboy's journal thread on it, he gave a bit more info too), just don't expect to be wowed visually It's all going to be in the flow of gameplay and giving us many more options.

Thanks for your support, everyone!

You've got questions and I've got all the answers - but I can't tell you everything. [e digicons]:grin:[/e]

Here's what I can tell you so far:

Currently the beta is slated for late Fall 2009
As others have pointed out, since Diplomacy requires Entrenchment, there will still be Starbases, mines, etc. making Diplomacy the full Sins mojo
No further details on pirates yet, but as with all other things, we'll keep folks in the loop as we nail down details

That's all for now.

Hi Yarlen,

Can you confirm that this is the last micro expansion/expanion for sins? Are you guys working on sins 2?

Thanks

For myself, i am not sure. I was really looking for a campaign editor and new condition victories that would make you avoid killing everyone when it is clear that i am going to win (like the 80% control of the map victory condition of Rise of Nations that avoided me painful and boring end of games) or new rules (like if you lose your capital and do not get it back within 10 minutes you lose for example) so i am a bit disappointed by this last expansion.

Moreover, i would like to avoid the entrenchment syndrome : great new toys but IA too dumb to play with them so the game is less fun and has so great new features that it make you unable to go back playing vanilla sins (Starbases are so cool !). for example, i think i spend far too much time building defenses, crushing starbases and mines than making exciting space battles.

So, wait and see.

Just so everyone knows, if you follow the link at the bottom of this post, you'll see the best confirmed response to the whole 3rd expansion/Sins 2 prospect.

Fans of the space strategy game Sins of a Solar Empire might remember that around this time last year developer Ironclad Games and publisher Stardock announced plans for three micro-expansions for the game to be available via digital download for $9.99 each. The first such micro-expansion, Entrenchment, was released last spring and the second, Diplomacy, is due out in spring 2010. But what about the third micro-expansion?

Today at PAX 2009, Stardock CEO Brad Wardell announced that plans for the third micro-expansion for the game have changed. Why? According to Wardell, Ironclad and Stardock have so many things they want add and improve to the game that putting all of them into a third $9.99 downloadable micro-expansion would simply not work. So what does that mean? Will there be a larger commerical expansion to the original game? Perhaps even a full-fledged sequel? Wardell admitted to nothing today but did say that fans of the original game should know that the future of the series is looking good.

http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/09/05/pax-2009-no-more-plans-for-third-sins-of-a-solar-empire-micro-e/

AND MORE!!

So this says...."and more."

I think you guys at Stardock and Ironclad have some explaining to do with this statement...

Does "and more." equal MOONS!!!!!?!?!?!??!?!?!? :D:D

is the any particular reason that i cant preorder using paypal??