DemiGod vs DoTa

By Posted July 24, 2009 13:41:14

How is it that a free game gets more updates and less bugs then a paid game?

I have a few friends that i play Dota/Demigod ofently with. And i have to say since DoTa 6.60 and 6.61 are out, we dont play Demigod at all. Sorry to say but 6 caracters and always the same and no change in the game play killed it for us. Cant wait to see the next patch for Dota, changes in spells and how caracters are played. You guys? Gonna fix some obscur bug and talk some more of what you did that week and post videos about it, great.

And its getting too lil too late. Even if you come out with new caracters now, sure ill try them hopefully they fun and entertain me until the next patch but frankly, i lost hope in StarDock. They flat out just didnt deliver with this game and keep not delivering. I was starting to belive in them when they fixed some of the problems at the begining but too long the same game, people are moving on and IceFrog isnt laging and doesnt have marketing departement to feed i guess, he is coming out with new stuff all the time and keeps it interesting. You guys are not, and people are returning to Dota.

With your marketing deparment, im sure they came up with something like 2-4 new caracters in an EXPENSION PACK that people will have to buy with 1/2 price and marketing deals bullshit (sorry for the word). Just go see you marketing department and fire them all, use 1/2 the money used to feed those useless people to hire developers. Peolpe know about your game, the best publicity you can have right now is a patch with new content with few bugs that are not affecting gameplay. Good products will beat marketing any days.

Come out with new content and people will flock back to the servers, for a few weeks. Keep addig new content and we'll stop playing Dota and tell our friends to go buy Demigod. But at the moment, it isnt working on 2 of my friends' laptop cause the videocard as a bug with your product even though its a good videocard taht sohuld play the game. After the 1st horrible weeks of this game, i had, as a friend, to let my friends know and alot didnt buy it. At the breaking points where we played Demigod enough that we didnt want to play Dota anymore and some of our friends were thinking to go buy the game, patch 6.60 came out. No bugs, like a new game, new caracters, change in spells, new items, free. A few days later got 1 of your patch, fixed some bug, changed a few things in protocols i dont understand or care.

But as i said, too lil too late, im about to un-instal Demigod, i need room for WoW PTR (that thing is HUGE) and i dont feel like un-instaling other games cause i havnt played your game in a while and the ONLY reason at this point in time where id want to log on Demigod is the see new caracters. One thing is for sure, im not re-downlaoding this game over the internet again, once its uninstaled, its gone. And if i DO re-instal it, it will have NOTHING to do with your marketing department but a friend that will tell me that its worth playing again and they want to play Demigod over Dota.

If you have a move to play, its pretty much now the time. And as i said, your marketing team cant do a damn thing about it, only developers can. Get people working on the GAME. As long as your game ends up with:

a) a demo

b) on bestbuy shelfs.

c) is well developed

your game will sell. You do not need marketing for that. I Never heard of WarCraft I when it 1st came out, saw the game on the shelf and it looked good. Not from marketing drawings and scenematics but from actual game play screenshots. Couldnt wait for WCII, then WCIII and later on the expension. Were was marketing back then!?!? Never got an email, never got a deal, just got a  good product and i paid full price and i was very satisfied with it, in fact more then paying 1/2 for your game. Then marketing can be done by monkeys: "its like WarCraft, but with space ships, we called it SpaceCraft". And people will wait in front of the stores the day it comes out.

Honnestly, what can marketing do if you come out with Demigod 2? Not many will buy unless there is a huge change in the current game. If the game had been well developed from the start, you know you would have gotten huge scores from gaming websites and the 1st 2-4 weeks of sells would have been much better. But no, why hire developers when marketing can make up for short coming? Because they cant. Now you learn that the hard way. I felt bad for you guys at 1st for all that happended and so on. But so many months later and the game is now fixed, work that should have been done before instead of after, so that after you can come up with content, but you guys are all tied up in making the game work so no new content. Eng. and Dev. dont work like that, thats marketing style. Maybe you've learn from this experience, i sure did: ill be lokking for your logos next time i DONT buy a game. Im sure the deals will be great, and my friends can get it for cheaper, and their moms too. But im not looking for a deal, im looking for a game.

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July 24, 2009 13:47:36

Bye [e digicons][/e]

July 26, 2009 00:06:35

Ohh, I can do this in less words:

 

DoTA:

DoTA sucks, it's like WoW but with more 12 year olds.

Demigod:

Demigod looks nice, however I can't play multiplayer because Impulse has an extremely retarded login system that ties BUYER email, CD key, and login all into 1 huge package of fail.

Result:

DoTA may be for damned 12 year olds, but at least I can play it. DoTA wins.

July 26, 2009 00:10:14

The sad part is that they made 95% of the effort to make an excellent game and just epic failed on some relatively simple elements.

July 26, 2009 04:10:19

Impulse has an extremely retarded login system that ties BUYER email, CD key, and login all into 1 huge package of fail.

Why don't you go to StarDock help? They have been extremely helpful in the past and they very quickly solve issues like this.

I haven't played either, but everyone I know who has played claim that DotA is pathetic compared to DemiGod. Most people I know hate DotA with a passion and can't understand why anyone would want to play it now that DemiGod is out. I have never known anyone who has any problems with it except for a couple of online crashes.

You bitch and moan about too few characters, but personally a prefer quality over quantity. Everyone I have ever spoken to about this has claimed that DotA has very low quality but is better then Warcraft III itself which is an epic fail of a game. DemiGod FTW!!!

July 30, 2009 11:57:43

JuleTron

Impulse has an extremely retarded login system that ties BUYER email, CD key, and login all into 1 huge package of fail.


Why don't you go to StarDock help? They have been extremely helpful in the past and they very quickly solve issues like this.

I haven't played either, but everyone I know who has played claim that DotA is pathetic compared to DemiGod. Most people I know hate DotA with a passion and can't understand why anyone would want to play it now that DemiGod is out. I have never known anyone who has any problems with it except for a couple of online crashes.

You bitch and moan about too few characters, but personally a prefer quality over quantity. Everyone I have ever spoken to about this has claimed that DotA has very low quality but is better then Warcraft III itself which is an epic fail of a game. DemiGod FTW!!!

Well, since Demigod can't manage to play a full round of one single game either single player or multiplayer and crashes a computer that only Demigod crashes DotA definately wins.  Um, actually solitaire wins against Demigod because it doesn't shut my computer down and it can finish a game.  I'm really upset with Demigod, so disappointed, looked great worked at first I think maybe one of their updates actually screwed it up worse.  Oh, well, no more stardock for awhile.  OH and yeah your company doesn't get capital letters until it fixes issues like oh hey the game we put out doesn't work maybe we should fix that.

July 30, 2009 12:56:43

swflcomputertech

Well, since Demigod can't manage to play a full round of one single game either single player or multiplayer and crashes a computer that only Demigod crashes DotA definately wins.  Um, actually solitaire wins against Demigod because it doesn't shut my computer down and it can finish a game.  I'm really upset with Demigod, so disappointed, looked great worked at first I think maybe one of their updates actually screwed it up worse.  Oh, well, no more stardock for awhile.  OH and yeah your company doesn't get capital letters until it fixes issues like oh hey the game we put out doesn't work maybe we should fix that.

Yeah, I know, Demigod won't run on ANYONE's computer. We are ALL having the same problems you are. Can't play a single game in singleplayer or multiplayer. I can't believe gas powered games would develop a game that won't even run on ANYONE's computer. We ALL got ripped off. I really can't see how they are even recording stats on the website because NOBODY's game is working right now. It crashes ALL of our computers. All of the recent threads have been about Demigod not working AT ALL. Why doesn't gas powered games fix this? I'm sure glad dota still works.

August 10, 2009 07:35:35

Charvel1
Yeah, I know, Demigod won't run on ANYONE's computer. We are ALL having the same problems you are. Can't play a single game in singleplayer or multiplayer. I can't believe gas powered games would develop a game that won't even run on ANYONE's computer. We ALL got ripped off. I really can't see how they are even recording stats on the website because NOBODY's game is working right now. It crashes ALL of our computers. All of the recent threads have been about Demigod not working AT ALL. Why doesn't gas powered games fix this? I'm sure glad dota still works.

I don't understand these threads complaining of bugs and crashes in Demigod. The game has run flawlessly on my rig ever since v1.0. Either I'm just lucky or it's a problem on your end.

September 8, 2009 20:15:29

It's problems on other people's end, really.

What strikes me as funny about this thread is that you are comparing people who use their spare time to do stuff with mod tools for a game to people who do this for a living. DoTa has been updated a lot because it's been out for a LONG TIME. The makers of Demigod have to do a lot more work than DoTa creators do, end of story. Whether or not they get paid to do it isn't the case, it's the fact that you are comparing an age-old mod to a game that is fresh and new. So dus all a favour and stop complaining until Demigod actually gets it's own shoes.

Also, saying that just because it doesn't work on a few people's computer's therefore means it doesn't work on 'anyone's' computer isn't a smart point. The fact is, Supreme Commander wasn't really optimised for lower end computers with the incredible amount of actual physics and it's solid visual impressiveness, and Demigod runs on basically the same engine (except for wind speed and all those little things SC had I believe). If you have an issue with Demigod not working, then maybe it's an issue with your drivers, software conflicting with the game, or maybe even the fact that palying a demanding game on your computer could be overheating it.

I'm not saying Demigod is free of issues either, and I'm not saying DoTA is bad as well. But please, don't compare them, unless you are comparing gameplay. There's a difference between making a modification for a game that is already established and has little issues with any form of computer, and an actual video game made from the ground up and meant for mid to high-end computers.

Sorry to come off as insulting, but there really isn't a point to saying 'but DoTA gets updated all the time' and going against GPG when DoTA actually receives tonnes of minor updates and Demigod receives fewer but consequently much larger updates.

September 10, 2009 14:27:28

DoTAs community however is the reason i decided fuck that and play demigod.

October 8, 2009 00:07:59

I have no interest in playing a mod for Warcraft. I have had no technical issues with Demigod (though the matching system could use some work).

November 2, 2009 16:20:54

Wait 6 characters? First of all there are eight.

Ok, Demigod and DotA have some differences to their gameplay

 

You know the DotA community is terrible when they first start complaining about Demigod because the game looks like a copy

Then they start complaining that the game has some differences than DotA.

DotA has one map and one mode. How repetitive. 

It also has a community that is worse than WoW and Halo.

 

November 17, 2009 00:28:51

Well, personally, I would think Newerth vs. League of Legends is the real question.  Demigod looks stunning, but it's far too limited for my tastes.  Also technically DOTA isn't "free", and neither are LOL or HON.

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