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WHY!? WHY!? WHY!? WHY!?

By Posted August 20, 2008 22:49:54
What is the purpose of this bloated piece of software? I was hoping for a slick streamlined way to update my games. What I got was a clunky sluggish piece of software that barely works, and clandestinely installs a piece of junk application launcher without telling you how to disable it.

All I want is a way to automatically and quickly update my game (SoSE). Why am I forced to use the steaming heap of dung that is Impulse to do this?

Here's the constructive part: Give me a streamlined tool to update my game(s) without installing any crapware on my PC.




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August 24, 2008 14:02:26

2) not.

August 24, 2008 14:03:21

2) not

August 24, 2008 14:33:26

Unfortunately with some people you are just wasting your energy typing because they won't be happy until someone tells them they are 100% right about everything they think and that their wishes will be fulfilled.
I agree. Except I don't require 100% certitude. As I've said before, I can live without using Impulse perfectly fine. The people that "won't be happy until someone tells them they are 100% right about everything they think" are the ones that seem to get all bent out of shape if they believe there's a single person that doesn't agree with them that Impulse is wonderful.

But just because a number of people would like to stifle all evidence of any kind of objection to Impulse doesn't mean that such objections don't exist. Just because you dismiss these objections as unreasonable doesn't mean they are.

I object to Impulse. I try to do so logically and reasonably where at all possible but I will continue to do so up until the point Brad sees fit to ban me for holding a contrary opinion.

August 24, 2008 14:41:33

It's so easy to be with the majority opinion. It doesn't take much in the way of fortitude to jump on the bandwagon and agree with 40 folks attacking one or two.

However you should try it from the other side just once if only to build a little character. You'll find that if you try to  argue logically that most of your points will simply be ignored, mis-stated or misunderstood and your somehow always the "bad" guy. But I don't mind. I have enough experience and strength of character that 40 folks telling me I'm wrong, stupid, unreasonable, etc. etc. ad nauseum doesn't really bother me.

However the converse of a single person unwilling to share the majority opinion seems to bother the hell out of a whole lot of people.

August 24, 2008 14:52:29
Anyone know where I can find an emoticon that rolls its eyes and shakes its head at the same time?
August 24, 2008 14:58:24

2) not

May this thread rest in peace.

August 24, 2008 15:52:54

May this thread rest in peace.
There seems no shortage of these kinds of threads. When or if this one dies another will take it's place. And to think I never would have even responded to this thread in the first place if someone didn't denigrate me in abstentia.

If you wish this thread to die then perhaps you should simply shut up and let it die.

If everyone is always insistent on having the last word then by definition the thread will never die.

August 24, 2008 16:57:05
The educated my trolling isn't trolling argument. Why hang around to object to Impulse? Don't use it. There's all kinds of software I don't use and I don't go to their Web sites pitching one after another of supposed logical arguements as to all the reasons it's soooo unusuable.

It's too this it's too that it does this and I don't like that. Why all the verbage from you Mumbles? Why do find it too difficult to simply not use it and be unconcerned with it?

When or if this one dies another will take it's place. And to think I never would have even responded to this thread in the first place if someone didn't denigrate me in abstentia.


And, how many times are you going to flog this dead horse?
August 24, 2008 17:17:24

And, how many times are you going to flog this dead horse?
But it is you who bring it up yet again.

Why do find it too difficult to simply not use it and be unconcerned with it?
Because the fact that you Impulse supporters seem to be unsatisfied until all objection to Impulse has been stifled. I refuse to be stifled. When Brad decides to ban me for the simple reason that I hold an opinion different from the majority then I will be out of your hair. Until then I'll be here to remind you that not everyone agrees with you.

As far as this thread is concerned it will die if you let it and if you won't it will live until it either gets locked and/or we move on to the next thread.

August 24, 2008 17:28:57

There's all kinds of software I don't use and I don't go to their Web sites pitching one after another of supposed logical arguements as to all the reasons it's soooo unusuable.
Actually I'm not going to "their" Web sites. I'm going to the Web site that I've gone to for over two years now. In fact it's the Impulse forums and that fact that they're shared across multiple sites that is spoiling what used to be my favorite web site.

I didn't come looking for the Impulse forum. It was forced upon me. If these Impluse threads did not intrude on the GalCiv2 site then I wouldn't fell compelled to respond to them. I've asked that they not be shared across different sites. I haven't received any official answer from Stardock although the fact that they continue to be shared seems a rather definite no.

Everyone seems fine with asking me to ignore things that annoy me. I'm just one guy. So if I annoy you then simply ignore me. Failing that you can petition Brad to ban me, otherwise you'll have to learn to live with me just as I must learn to live with you. But I will not be stifled.

August 24, 2008 17:31:37
Why hang around to object to Impulse? Don't use it.

Because the objections regard problems that someone thinks should be fixed to improve Impulse.

Because an annoying or unacceptable part of Impulse is what keeps someone from buying a game.

Because it is possible to use something without loving every part of it.

Because criticism is important.

I really love Impulse, and find it way more preferable than Steam or any other game distribution platform out there. But I sure don't think it's Holy and Above Criticism! All praise to those who dare complain; either if it's a well-written and polite constructive criticism, or an angry badly formulated rant.

Even an ALL-CAPS rant written in bad English littered with childish swearwords is an indication that something with Impulse is either too hard to understand and should be explained better, or is annoying at some level and could be improved.

Negative criticism is indispensable. Scaring off nay-sayers will reduce the quality of Impulse.
August 24, 2008 18:20:10
Sounds like educated trolling to me. What do you want it to do? Most of what's been posted here is idealism and vague expressions of disatisfaction. Stardock has policies where threads are populated across a number of forums. How could that possibly be a problem to you?

Just because you want to call something a problem doesn't make it one. Furthermore you have made more attempts to stifle responses than anyone else Mumbles. You attempt to grant yourself nobility as the poor misconstrued receiver of unfair critisms because your opinion about a software product might not be popular. Or that the fact it's critism makes it valuable. And, the thread will die when we no longer post in it. All attempts on your part to stifle.

What's more you claim Impulse isn't up to your standards of usability, that is, not bugs in need of fixing, but rather it isn't to your liking. Good grief. That's why my response. Don't use it. Live without the game updates.

Impulse is very usable IMO. It has built in help and documentation. It has online web support both on the forums and through email. And, you can even just leave it on the Updates tab and all it will ever do when you open it is show you your available updates.

But, suit yourself. Your complaining comes across to me as senseless. Complaining for the sake of complaining and little more. When all the last of the real bugs are worked out of Impulse your audience for this sort of thing will dry up also.
August 24, 2008 18:25:49
But it is you who bring it up yet again.


First of all, I'm not bringing it up. I'm pointing something out to you. You have brought this up to Daiwa's attention several times now. That prior statement of mine was the first time I pointed that out to you. This response is straighten the matter out with you. "yet again" is mistating something to try to bolster some sort stance your taking. Your posts are full of this kind of nonsense.
August 24, 2008 18:26:50
But I sure don't think it's Holy and Above Criticism!


No, but why are you trying to claim that I do?
August 24, 2008 19:14:25
you: And to think I never would have even responded to this thread in the first place if someone didn't denigrate me in abstentia.
me: And, how many times are you going to flog this dead horse?
you: But it is you who bring it up yet again.


I didn't bring it up. I was pointing out for the first time you've pitched that at Daiwa several times now. Why do you try to misconstrue this with your statement I bring it up yet again? And this statement I'm making now is for clarification only.

Because the fact that you Impulse supporters seem to be unsatisfied until all objection to Impulse has been stifled. I refuse to be stifled. When Brad decides to ban me for the simple reason that I hold an opinion different from the majority


And, I think this says a lot about your real motivations. These sort of statements of yours indicate your not "Objecting to Impulse" your argueing. At what bunch of tripe you attribute to others on these forums good grief "When Brad decides to ban me for the simple reason that I hold an opinion different from the majority" what a bunch of self-serving nonsense. And, of course any efforts made to point out the nonsense in your posts are attempts to stifle you. Of course that's what I'm doing I'm just trying to stifle these valuable Impulse critcisms of yours.



August 24, 2008 19:54:41

I didn't bring it up.
Oh I see. I had assumed that by dead horse you meant this thread and I tend to agree but you keep talking so I see no reason to back down.

Apparently the dead horse you we're refering to was bringing up the point that I was insulted when not even present in the thread. The fact that I still have received no apology is apparently not germane. As far as I'm concerned until I receive an apology then it's not beating a dead horse. If you don't agree and this is also something that annoys you then why don't you just ignore it, otherwise I suggest that you get used to it.

As far as arguing, what's wrong with that? The only problem is that this seems far more like abuse rather than an argument. But I suppose you'll say that I'm the one dishing out the abuse while my 40 attackers are only righteously defending themselves.

In any case I can go on as long as you can.

Why that reminds me of something about argument versus abuse.

Zubaz showed me that it's possible to directly reference a you tube video however he neglected to explain how. So with my obviously limited computer skills I'll simply include the link. I will attempt to edit the link into usabilty however I probably will be as unsucessfull with that as in convincing you that anything I say has validity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy34xQ_XeEg

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August 24, 2008 20:09:34
I think I've made my point. Your doing nothing more than arguing which has little to do with Impulse and a whole lot to do with you. As to the youtube video I'm not interested but, it's directly done with the insert image button, you just have to get the address right.

And please just cut it out. I'm not abusing you. And, no I didn't expect you to answer any of my questions, just more vague self-serving rubbish from you.
August 24, 2008 20:16:44

The only point you've really made is that you insist on having the last word which is all pretty much everyone else has insisted on as well. Well I'm sorry but if you get the last word it will only be because the thread gets locked just after you make a post.

But thanks for the video info (I think. I won't know for sure until I hit Post Reply and I may or may not be able to edit it). I didn't realize it was that simple. I had been trying to embed an html object. I won't see the results until I hit Post Reply and by then it may be too late to edit.

[edit] I guess my thanks were premature [/edit]

August 24, 2008 20:25:48
You don't have the address right. It's been awhile since I've done it but I used to use FF2 and then right click on the image I was trying to embed and select one of the copy image location commands I think. You have to be viewing the image first though.

*edit* I tried and can't quite get this working either. Try sending a PM to Zubaz if you ask nicely he might tell you.
August 24, 2008 21:03:38
I am Mumblefratz of Borg... my troll implant has been tuned to 'always on' and now I can't shut-up.

I am BigDogBigFeet of Borg... now you tell me!!! OK, then, if you must, have the last word.

NUFF said????
August 24, 2008 21:18:46
It always amazes me when people think that trying to form a well written post will distract others from realizing the ridiculousness of their attitude.

August 24, 2008 21:26:18
I am Mumblefratz of Borg... my troll implant has been tuned to 'always on' and now I can't shut-up.

I am BigDogBigFeet of Borg... now you tell me!!! OK, then, if you must, have the last word.

NUFF said????


I already reached that conclusion. At least he admitted he was only posting to argue.
August 24, 2008 21:29:01

See what I mean. No of course you don't.

Everyone wants the last word and therefore the thread will never end which is as they want it.

Mercifully it probably will get locked soon which will be for the best.

You don't get someone to shut up by telling them to shut up.

You say I am in the wrong here. If that's so why is it I keep getting karma for my stance.

NUFF said, indeed!!!! [e classic][/e]

August 24, 2008 21:35:57
Anyone know where I can find an emoticon that rolls its eyes and shakes its head at the same time?


anyone? anyone at all?
August 24, 2008 21:50:22
Your not going to start demanding apologies from everyone are you Mumbles?
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